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bush sr. and ross perot. it was the first die bait that year. the back story was george bush won the white house by sort of playing on patriotism themes. flag burns issues like this. really in my ways seemed to question dukakis's pati patriot. here comes bill clinton. he was at oxford during the vietnam war and participating in protests over there. george bush sr. on the campaign trail and the republicans started to play this up and coming close to questioning the patriotism of xwlibill clinton. bush brought it up and they went to clinton for a response. they think it can work here again. this is when we learned what a great and masterful communicator bill clinton is. this is how he handled it. >> i honor your service in world war ii. i honor mr. perot's service in the uniform and the service of any man and women who served, including admiral who is your chairman of the joint chiefs supporting me. when joe mccarthy went around this country attacking people's patriotism, he was wrong. he was wrong. and a senator from connecticut stood up to him named prescott bush, your father was
than under george bush, over 4 1/2 trillion dollars under obama, $700 billion under george bush, the expanding war, you know, people thought obama was going to be the peace president but in fact on day three in office he intensified the bombing in pakistan. and then spread the drone wars into yemen and somalia, surged the troops into afghanistan and withdrew from iraq only because it was george bush's date of withdrawal. it of the date george bush had negotiated to end the immunity for u.s. soldiers and barack obama had done his darn december to try to -- darndest to extend that date so the troops may be there now if he had had his way so yes, we haven't gotten peace. voting for either of the two major parties is basically a very good way to ensure that we will continue to send jobs overseas, undermine our wages at home, watch the cross of health care and housing and education continue to skyrocket out of reach and watch the climate essentially go up in flames, because under this president, as much as under george bush, we have seen the polices of drill baby drill and in fact th
director to president george w. bush. also a romney supporter. matt, good afternoon to you, sir. >> great to be with you. >> is this the last best chance for governor romney? true or false? what do you think? >> i guess kind of true. it's a great opportunity. i think it's a big mistake for candidates, especially when they're running for president, to put all the marbles in a debate. because really what you want to do in a debate, is first of all, you don't want to be swinging so much for the fences that you make a lot of errors. i worked for president george w. bush, as you said, and in his first debate in 2004, a lot of people felt like he gave a subpar performance. and there's no question that we breathe some life into our opponents, and if president obama, who some have characterized as almost a messianic kind of figure, comes across as someone who does not have a real plan for second term, he could be looking at poll numbers that get even more tight. >> but if governor romney doesn't unveil some sort of grand plan for his first term, that won't move the needle at all either, will it?
the federal government with their boots on our neck. when george bush was president, we lost 700,000 jobs per month. all these programs were in place at the time. the only addition is the health care act, which has not been fully implemented. i think that you have a selective memory of where we are in this country and how we got to where we currently are. >> i must say, mr. sadler may well be the only person, the only small business owner, former small-business owner in the state who does not think the regulatory and tax burden under this administration has make -- made life harder to create jobs. i will tell you, crisscrossing the state, it does not matter, east texas, west texas, austin, dallas, houston, small-business owners say their life has become much harder with the regulatory uncertainty and burdens. two-thirds of all new jobs come from small-business. >> i am not hearing that from small business. you keep saying that, but i do not hear it. >> in response to the romney video, a obama video service in which he discusses market forces and competition, but also the redistribution of wea
that was been wrongly at the seat of george bush in the republican party when it goes back to democratic house important -- but nevertheless i wrote in that book that romney would make a great presidential nominee. i didn't know who the nominee would be. it's not a book about romney. i was proven remarkably impressionable by the 2007 book. the dean of the columbia school of journalism. the new yorkers national political reporter and always the go to guy for national political stories. the profile the in 2005 for the new yorker. it was a very nice piece. he told his liberal democratic leaders, the most influential conservative you ever heard of. okay. [laughter] that's okay, i guess. i don't really speak to the manhattan crowd, the your crowd. how many of you describe to the new yorker? i rest my case. he had read that and remembered that i've written this book about romney. what do you think now? have read the book. no, i haven't. go back and read in and coming back. he did. he called me back in about a week. what do you think of the book? we talked about it. in fact, i made predictions about
are the republican nominee president george bush, the independent russ perot, and governor bill clinton, the democratic nominee. my name is carole simpson. and i will be the moderator for tonight's 90-minute debate. >> 90-minute debate, she says. that is carole simpson then. and here is carole simpson today. once again, the lady in red. carole simpson, amazing seeing you here, 20 years later, welcome. you know, all kinds of history made that night. you and i were talking on the commercial break, people recognizing you all around the world in the 20 years since. and it was unique about that night, the three debaters, not the usual two, you had, my goodness, questions from the audience, you had yourself, you're the first woman to host a presidential debate. just -- if i may, first question, perspectivewise, you presided over history, did you not? >> i did. and that was the most exciting -- it was the pinnacle of my career to be able to moderate a presidential debate that is like every reporter's dream in washington is to have that opportunity. so i was thrilled. and i don't like you talki
of george w. bush. >> one of the things both campaigns talk about is this is a possible advantage for governor romney because there is an elevated factor for him. he is on the same stage as the president. these debates to make an impression. sometimes they have a lasting impression. often, they do not. it is an opportunity, one of the few moments in the campaign, the conventions are another, but this is the last opportunity that both candidates have to speak to such a large audience at once. >> laura meckler, thank you for being with us. we have warren decker. he is from a university in fairfax, virginia. joining us from boston, a professor alan schroeder. he has 50 years of high risk tv. what makes a good debate and a good debater? >> i think the difference between a really good debate from my standpoint, intercollegiate debate, and debates we see at the presidential level is that a really good debate would be characterized by some depth of clash and arguments back and forth between the two. a lot of that is missing from presidential debate. the testing of ideas comes from that c
you name it policies of george w. bush and dick cheney across the board? i mean is that it? is it they're totally out of it, stupid, don't know the issues? watch too much fox news? i mean i really cannot figure it out because by any measure, we talked about this before, by any measure, yeah, times are tough. yes, too many americans are out of work. yes, too many have had to take second jobs or new careers or they're not making as much or don't have as much authority and responsibility, not as good a job as they had the first time around. yeah, we know all of that. but overall americans are a hell of a lot better off than they were four years ago. white males are better off than they were four years ago. romney's policies, if anything, are going -- would set them back were he president because under him, there would be no middle class. there would be the very poor and the very, very, very, very, very rich like him. so this whole -- it makes me angry and it makes me frustrated and it makes me embarrassed to be part o
. 25.4% know more jobs were created in the first term of barack obama then the last term of george bush. that is a claim you see back- and-forth in advertising about who lost jobs and gained jobs. public confusion is to be expected. 31% knew that when mitt romney was governor of massachusetts, job growth in massachusetts improved. a claim in which democrats are trying to muddy the waters. in a long way to go in terms of improving pu
together. george w. bush won in 2000, despite a roaring economy under president clinton. everyone thought al gore should crush bush, but he was able to win by talking about issues like education and demonstrating to suburban voters that hey, you can trust me. i'm a safe pair of hands on these issues and mitt romney has had a hard time doing that. what mitt romney needs to do is say look, i'm the candidate who's going to deliver more work and better and higher wages through my plan an there are a few things like energy policy and making the case for tax reform. he's made it much, much harder for himself than he should have. >> go ahead. >> it's a little hard for mitt romney to talk about what he is going to do on health care when he sd he is going to repeal all of the affordable care act then say i'm going to keep some parts of it. so again, it's sort of like dude, exactly what are you trying to do here? i think the difference between george w. bush, he ran as a compassionate conservative and he had his conservative base locked up. romney's dealing with people whobds we're not really trust
an issue of my opponent's age. and it was all over. he handled it. in 2004, i think it was, george bush had a little bit of a bad debate, the first one with kerry. it opened things up a little bit. by the end, we know who won. >> rick: it seems to a lot of conservatives that the media wants to=jt] call this thing for the president, already. and this year, more so than in any other presidential election year that the media bias against the republican candidate is worst than it has ever been before. i know you are not a conservative. from where you sit as you look at the coverage, you look at the way the media has perpetuated these story lines, how do you see it? >> you know, i don't know. romney has made a few mistakes, all right. i think if you are trying to get people to watch television or read our column, you focus on mistakes. it is a story. but i honestly think that particularly in presidential politics, people get a real view of the candidates. it is not governed by paid media and advertisements. it is really not governed by coverage. i think and i don't mean to insult anybody, at the
of a broader pattern where the obama white house wants to continue george w. bush's anti-terror policies, even expand them in terms of drone strikes and so on without completely acknowledging what they're doing. but in this case, it's made them look ridiculous. it seems unnecessary. >> i've lived in the middle east and in libya. and nothing that you see is as it seems. you don't have any idea who these people r. they showed up with grenade launch easy and sophisticated weapons. but in libya today, everybody's got some. >> that's fine. you don't even have to say, this is definitely terrorism. you just don't spend a week saying, well, it's all about this video that was made in southern california and the muslim world is really angry. if you want to hedge your bets, okay. but they didn't. they went all in -- >> i'm going to apologize for them for wanting to get all the facts before they opened up their mouths and started blabbering. >> they did open up their mouths and start blabbering. >> i'm going to cut them a little slack for wanting to get all the facts before they go out and say it was a te
in 2004, george w. bush was 6, 7 points ahead of john kerry. he didn't prepare well. he came across as slightly impatient. he's the president of the united states, why am i debating this guy? and that race went from a six-point race to a one-point race in 48 hours. i think barack obama has to be careful. that he doesn't come across irritable or impatient. >> or running out the clock. >> perform well from a mannerism standpoint. if he doesn't, this race goes a one-point race. we're all sitting around, what happened. >> donna brazile, matt dowd brings up the mannerisms. you were in the al gore camp, everyone thought that he cleaned george bush's clock, in that debate, but on mannerisms he ended up losing. >> george, many of us remember the split screen. al gore was sitting there, rolling his eyes, looking at george bush and basically, he started to sigh. >> did president obama have that vulnerability. >> look, i think governor romney speaks in perfect sound bites. i attended many of those republican debates. one thing that he's very good at is turning a negative question, a question d
's important to remember george w. bush and karl rove have a brilliant strategy of outreach to the hispanic voters and a less successful. george bush won at least 40% of the vote. it's more like 40. stila does a remarkable accomplishment, and now he's pulling at best in the mid-20s with the hispanic vote and his own campaign said the need to reach 38% nationally to be competitive in the state where the latino vote will be critical, so the republican party lurched to the right in recent years instead of george w. bush, karl rove, john mccain. let's reach out to the hispanics and make reform something. it's become a party that mitt romney says there is a model he's promised a veto. the gerry before the radical policy prescription called deportation, the idea of making life so miserable here that immigrants are literally purged from the country so it's hurt badly but hispanics. the strategy, that strategy means as you point out in your excellent paper, really the southwest is out of reach in large part because of this. they've pulled off the mexico. they have a shot in colorado and nevada but
were they in 2000 when george bush told a first election? where were they in ohio when he stole second election? where were they in the war in iraq? as far as parties go, the democrats control both congress, the senate, and the president to help people passed social security and medicare and food stamps. any port middle-class or working-class person that boats for a republican -- that votes for republicans -- this world would be back with it was in the 1930's. people to have the minimum wage. \ guest: that was very interesting laying out what is happening in this country. you raise the issue of the minimum wage. the democrats have not been pushing for that to be increased either. this is a very serious issue, the issue of a minimum wage of eight livable wage. -- oh a little -- of a liv able. i agree it is not a liberal media in this country. let's go back to the bombing of iraq in 2003. there was a report of the four nightly newscasts. in a two-week period, colin powell pushing for war in the u. n, it was the final nail in the coffin. he had been hesitant about the war. he was very cre
to john kerry losing narrowly to george w. bush in that state, the president has a couple huge advantages we're seeing in the ten-point game, one is the auto bailout. there is no state besides michigan be impacted more positively by the auto bailout than ohio. 82 out of 88 counties have an auto parts supplier in them that's felt a direct effect of the bailout. part of why the economy is doing better there. it's enough to move the needle. also the case that anti-union backlash in the industrial midwest and wisconsin has motivated organized labor in ohio in a way, the case always for democrats ohio is the place where organized labor has the most impact. this year motivating them more so. all that adds up to it's been an uphill climb for mitt romney, ten points is probably not what that margin will be on election day, but it's -- it is a state that's very hard to figure out a map for mitt romney to win. possible but not -- very hard. almost kind of fantastical, ha his naer to. >> so many other things about mitt romney -- >> it's just very, very hard. >> kurt andersen a son of the midwest is.
- sector jobs created with this president is more than were created under george bush. you have a president who basically inherited one of the worst economies that this country has ever seen. of course, what will you do with a falling object? that object will fall and you have to pick up and the rise back up will be a little bit slower. what you have seen is that coming in the 30 months, 4.6 million new jobs, he has already created more jobs centers w. bush. this is a president who understands how to get the economy going and this election should bebethese two candidates, who actually has a plan about the future? given his record, i have more confidence that president obama can get that done than governor romney appeared >> -- then governor romney. >> right now, you're trying to get a sales tax increase to pay for pre-k. can you defend, sitting next to someone who does not like texas famously, the decision to brought to market with a tax increase even for something you so strongly believe in? many mayors are with yo but there are a lot of elected officials and san antonio who are not with y
. americans have shown their willingness to do so. the carter election and the first george bush election when bill clinton got elected, but they have to have a reason. they have to have a reason. >> isn't obama's record a good reason? should not mitt romney be talking more about that record? >> he should, but he also has to couple that with why he would be different. what would he do? on the issue of debt that you just talked about, on the issue of debt, romney we saw softened his position on how big a tax cut he could give under the romney/ryan budget because they added up the numbers. you can't give a $5 trillion tax cut and do anything meaningful about the debt. as bill clinton said, they finally did the math. his original plan would have blown it up more than anything president obama could do. so you can't just attack. you have to say, this is what my opponent has done wrong. this is how i'll change it. and he has done a fair job. he could do a better job on what my opponent has done wrong, but he has to come up with this is how i'll change it. it's important. >> thanks so much. >> help m
now to "clear the air." and up until now former president george w. bush has managed to stay out of the spotlight much to the relief of mitt romney. even when his wife, laura, agreed to host a lavish fund-raiser for mr. romney at their home in dallas, mr. bush made sure he was nowhere to be seen. but just to be clear, bush 43 has expressed some support for mr. romney, sort of. >> interested in politics, i'm a supporter of mitt romney, hope he does well, but, you know, he can do well without me. >> president bush clearly understands that most republicans don't want to recall his period in the white house. the massive tax cuts that threw away a budget surplus, two wars that were neither budgeted for nor easily executed, and a mortgage mess that was the direct result of minimal egg lation and maximum exploitation. that's why we were a little surprised to learn that george b. bush has accepted an invitation to be the keynote speaker at a forthcoming investors conference will will take place on the cayman islands. yes, even as mr. bush avoids romney the man, he's getting closer to som
might have subsequently learned what that was about, you think of clinton and george bush sr. he was a better commuter. bush 2004 against john kerry. kerry was a strong debater. i don't see incumbent see aas a factor in these. >> that's fair. there's a multitude of factors that go into success in debates. the challenger in the first debate seems to perform better. one is the person the word has known for three and a half years as the president, and the other is a person they're geg to know. now this makes them equal. that's enormous and the psychological effect is hard to understatement. >> when i was running for congress, as the challenger it was hard to get the incumbent to debate me at all. that's the case for a lot of challenger candidates. "snl" had an amazing take on a potential trouble spot for the president in the debates. let's take a look. >> surely someone has a job that wasn't around in 2008. anyone? there he is. what do you do, sir? >> i chase raccoons out of foreclosed homes. it's great because all those homes have people in them a few years ago. >> good for you. st
to spend that money early? >> they were very smart. they did exactly to mitt romney what george bush did to john kerry a few years ago. but romney's people should have been smart enough to know this was happening. there was no presumption of that. they didn't get out aahead of the story. they didn't define their candidate well. there's two parts to this election, chris. one, is romney said a lot of people are unhappy with obama and his leadership and the economy. we accept that. he never made the connection that i'm the answer and solution. that's where the disconnect happened. >> mitt romney has been doing a lot to -- we saw it starting at the conventions. make himself more acceptable and help people understand him better. he's doing these direct into the camera ads. let me play one of those for you. >> more americans are living in poverty than when president obama took office. my plan will create 12 million new jobs over the next four years. helping lift families out of poverty and strengthening the middle class. >> the president is doing the same thing, doing some of these direct to c
ahead of george burke, after the sigh, he stalled out and george bush still lost that election, but he closed in close enough for the supreme court to make the call at home plate. but, my favorite, the absolute best debate moment of all lloyd benson, 1988 versus dan quayle. >> i have as much experience in the congress as jack kennedy did when he got the presidency. >> senator i served with jack kennedy. i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. [ cheers and applause ] >> that was really uncalled for senator. >> you're the one that was making the comparison, senator. >> oh, smack! >> i love that! >> and there's one more. let's keep them on a high note. there's one more not from a general election debate but from a primary just last year with one of our favorite candidates in the republican primary mr. governor rick perry. >> it's three agencies of government i when i got there that are gone, commerce, education and the -- what's the third one there? oh,! >> commerce, education and the... >> e.p.a.? >> e.p.a. >> seriously? is e.p.a. what you
's got to do what george w. bush did in 2000 at one point in the evening and run the board. he's got to win all of these swing states. >> he does. the good news, it's headed the right direction. >> he can do it. >> absolutely. in late september, early october 2000, we were down three to five points. everybody said the campaign was completely screwed up. everybody should be fired. george bush went on to win all three debates, run the tables, as you've said, and turn it around and was up three. so it's absolutely possible. and i think this is big stakes. i mean, this is really an opportunity where people -- >> tonight is -- tonight is a huge debate. it really is. >> it's huge for all the obvious reasons. >> for the obvious reasons. >> but there's a lot of people that have heard a lot about romney and really haven't seen him. >> right. >> tonight they're going to get to see him all alone, mano a mano, and it's a real opportunity for them to get a sense of who he is, what he believes because they've just heard a lot. they haven't seen it. they're going to see it tonight. this is a real o
someplace better to be as president george bush did that same year when he checked his watch during a question. finally, be careful who you compare yourself to. >> i have as much experience in the congress as jack kennedy did. >> reporter: in 1988, vice presidential candidate dan quayle made that mistake against lloyd bentsen. >> i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. (cheers and applause) >> reporter: in the era of scripted and staepblg-managed candidates, the debates offer something increasingly dangerous-- the chance of a spontaneous moment. anthony mason, cbs news, new york. >> pelley: and that's the "cbs evening news." we'll be back at 9:00 eastern time with our debate coverage. i'm scott pelley in denver. see you again soon. >>> this is 9news now. >> with five weeks to go until election day, president obama versus mitt romney in the first of three presidential debates. good evening, i'm derek mcginty. welcome to 9news now at 7:00. i'm live in the u.s.a. today newsroom. anita brikman is live in the studio. i'm joined by paul si
the liberal media for the campaign's troubles. the press didn't treat ronald reagan and george w. bush any less unfairly, and both men managed not only to win the presidency but to get re-elected. mr. romney would do better to focus more on reducing his unforced errors and less on the fourth estate's political bias. if whining about the liberal media was a winning strategy for republicans, newt gingrich would be the nominee." >> well, and newt gingrich is a great example -- i don't mean to go back there -- a great example of the problem we're talking about here. because -- >> no. >> -- no, instead of stepping forward and separating himself from this candidate, he somehow, because of his party -- >> todd akin is going to lose. that's a distraction. >> it is. >> i'm talking about the presidential race. we're one week out from the first presidential debate, and we have brand-new polling out this morning from three separate swing states that show this race is slipping away. >> and they're the big three. >> and they're the big three, mika. >> yes, they are. are you ready? >> i'm ready for you t
by a 1992 debate between george bush, bill clinton, and ross perot. then a 2000 debate with vice president al gore and george bush. past presidential debate tonight at 8:00 here on c-span. -- tonight at 7:00 here on cspan. >> cspan is not biased. there are no ads and that is arguably the biggest reason. the cspan video archives. it is one of the most historical are. i like to watch "washington journal," the house of representatives proceedings and c-span 2. >> cspan, created by america's cable companies in 1979, brought to you as a public service by your television provider. >> retired military officials discussed the impact of childhood obesity and on health the options in school cafeterias related to national security. they talk about obesity and young adults and how it impacts enlistment in the military. this is half an hour. from the national press club. >> good afternoon, i am the national director for mission readiness, in nonprofit national security organization of over 300 retired generals and admirals who care deeply about the national security of this country. and to support the
george h.w. bush never once whined about process. you know why? because james baker told the press what they were going to be following. and he told the candidate what he was going to be doing. and every week the candidate did it. the message was unbelievable. but again, going on with charles krauthammer, for six months mitt has been matching obama small ball for small ball. a hit-and-run critique here. this is important. a hit-and-run critique here, a slogan of the week there. that's what we've been saying. sam stein, there is no over arching message, no reagan message, no thatcher message, no george h.w. bush message in 1988. it's small ball. you have a libyan embassy blow up. you push him out the next morning and do something that even the romney campaign now understands was an absolute disaster. the president makes a faux pa about a bump in the road which was a stupid thing to say but they obsess over that. they say this is the message. this is how we're getting people back to work and change the economy clearly they're chasing after news headlines trying to win the day. >> that is
on getting things done as opposed to be able to message i care like george h.w. bush. >> a compassionate conservative like george w. bush projected himself. >> first of all, the government that george w. bush was already a true conservative. he didn't ve to lock that portion of his base up. wolf, i got to say it. trust me, after playing that sound bite on the health care in massachusetts, you can literally feel erick cringe as mitt romney said that because, again, he says i'm going to rpeal obama care but then he comes back later and says i'm going to implement some pies oe affordable care act. so, dude, yan't have it both ways. and that's romney's problem. he is boxedin beuse he was the one who passed universal health care in achusetts. now we have it nationa ankee erick who desperatelyto s a republican president are going, oh, my god, here he goes again. >> go ahead, erick. >> yep. well, i keep a little airpla he front pocket in front of me for times like this. i remember a lot of republican candidates saying it's going to be hard for him to make the case on obama care. we're finding t
with george w. bush, which cost him a lot -- sign in and moaning throughout the debate the george w. bush, which cost compared the -- cost him the debate. if there are not a lot of those 47% comments that president running mate -- did i say president running? -- mitt romney? mitt romney apologized. host: let's look at tom and said governor romney made yesterday about the debate. -- that governor romney made yesterday about the debate. [video clip] >> there is a lot of interest, people want to know who will win, who will score, and in my view it is not winning and losing, or the people themselves, the president and myself. it is about something bigger than that. these debates are about the pathway for word for america that we would choose, and the american people will have to make their choice. i look forward to these debates. i am delighted that we will have three debates. he will be a conversation with the american people that will span almost an entire month. host: mitt romney on the campaign trail yesterday. we have seen the candidates talk about this low expectation game. howard kurtz
on fox news. >> we knew that george bush's grandfather found geronimo's skull. we knew what kind of underwear bill clinton wore. we know nothing about president obama and it is a national security issue. so it is a little -- >> huh? >> stephanie: they're trying this again that he hasn't been vetted? >> they know nothing about president obama? really? >> he might have been born in kenya or mars, we don't know. >> stephanie: what do we base that on? we know his entire background. his entire -- >> by the way, the new -- the new conspiracy is that the kenyan goat herder is not his real dad and that he was actually the son of a black revolutionary radical. >> stephanie: i know but that one makes orly taitzs lose it. >> he would be a natural born citizen. that irritates them. >> stephanie: even the bitters are fighting now. -- >> the illegitimate son of malcolm x which makes him born in the u.s. [ wah wah ] >> how old was malcolm x? >> stephanie: mars. >> it is not unreasonable to ask everyone in americ
with a trend line similar it to george w. bush. the american people like him, but they're open to somebody better. mitt romney is now the next massachusetts guy who maybe was a flip-flopper in the past like john kerry. can he close the sale with the american people? this is a referendum on mitt romney all aalong. we already had a referendum on obama. it was the 2010 midterm elections. this is not about what happened in the next four years, but it's about who will do a better job for the next four years. romney needs to present something other than, jie, hasn't obama sucked? you cannot win like that. howard dean would be the democratic nominee and president of the united states if that was the case. you have to give people a reason to vote for you. >> steve, you make pay compelling argument there. the debates, perhaps, michael, the next opportunity and the last opportunity for mitt romney to make this case. both sides have elised memos. this is beth myers of the romney campaign. this is what she says in part. it's clear that president obama will use his ample rhett for cal gifts in debating
power on a certain level. i mean, look, nixon, reagan, george w. bush, republican presidents have learned how to get stuff done at times in the face of congress and sometimes controlled by the other party. you know, this whole notion of the imperial presidency that arose under nixon, not coincidentally, a republican, i think you said it was kind of a tori sense built. but it's really a concentration of power. >> are they stronger than the democrats and they know what that is? assembly, parliamentary? >> in some ways they have been more skillful and more ruthless in the way that they have moved the levers of power. in washington and outside of washington, to get stuff done. >> joy, i don't think the republicans have a karl rove a. malignant sense of power, i'm going to be the architect and i'm going to rule and they are spreading the money around and trying to get back the power. it does seem almost obsessive, the love of the white house. >> i think eugene robinson is right. for conservatives, the idea of being the cowboy, they like the self-image for themselves and want that image
? he hasn't differentiated from george bush's. and his plans lack specifics. in a one-on-one debate, candidates have a lot of control over how aggressive they are. both romney and the president are inexperienced in a one-on-one debate format. few details on the format. the president and romney will be at podiums, standing, not sitting, and there will be no basic time limits on their answers. it's not 90 seconds, buzzer, things like that. it's up to the discretion of the moderator, jim leierer. that's going to be up to him. but there's supposed to be a lot of leeway here over how long the conversations go. the debate is on domestic policy. 90 minutes is supposed to be devoted to the economy specifically with governing and health care. but we'll see if the general nature of those areas allows libya to come up, which we know the romney folks want to do. debates are as much about style as substance and this is a reality show where obama and romney will meet in the first time in nearly five years before their biggest audience of the campaign. the first 2008 presidential debate between th
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